If you frequent various domainer message boards, you’ve probably noticed an overabundance of LLLL.com sales.   These domains are usually a random combination of four letters, many of which wouldn’t carry any value to any non-domainer.

As someone who doesn’t buy/sell LLLL.com domains, it can often be frustrating digging through those message board posts looking for domains that I may be interested in.  I put LLLL.com in the speculative category, and we generally don’t invest in speculative domains due to the risk involved. 

With that said, many of the people that invested in LLLL.com domains in 2006 and 2007 are now making good money flipping them for anywhere from 500-1000% profit.  Are these domains just a fad or are they a solid investment?  The Daily Domainer recently tackled this subject in their recent post, LLLL.com Domains: Gone Wild or Geniune Opportunity?

As suggested in their post, all LLLL.com domains are gone and they aren’t making any new ones, and that alone creates value.  My problem has always been that who is the end-user?  I need to see a potential end-user to invest in a domain, otherwise I feel like I am simply paying renewal fees only to flip it to another domainer for a minor profit.   While you can profit that way, is it worth all that effort?   The only potential end-user I can find for these domains that are not pronouncable are upstart radio and tv stations that might want to use their call letters as their domain name. 

What do you think?  Are LLLL.com domains a solid long-term investment or just a fad that will fade out over the coming year?

History: 100 Oldest Domain Names

Thanks to URL Academy, we now have a list of the 100 oldest domain names.  You’ll find a few that are familiar, and a very large number of domains that you’ve probably never heard of.   Enjoy!

THE 100 OLDEST CURRENTLY-REGISTERED .COM DOMAINS

1.   15-Mar-1985 SYMBOLICS.COM
2.   24-Apr-1985 BBN.COM
3.   24-May-1985 THINK.COM
4.   11-Jul-1985 MCC.COM
5.   30-Sep-1985 DEC.COM
6.   07-Nov-1985 NORTHROP.COM
7.   09-Jan-1986 XEROX.COM
8.   17-Jan-1986 SRI.COM
9.   03-Mar-1986 HP.COM
10.   05-Mar-1986 BELLCORE.COM
11=   19-Mar-1986 IBM.COM
11=   19-Mar-1986 SUN.COM
13=   25-Mar-1986 INTEL.COM
13=   25-Mar-1986 TI.COM
15.   25-Apr-1986 ATT.COM
16=   08-May-1986 GMR.COM
16=   08-May-1986 TEK.COM
18=   10-Jul-1986 FMC.COM
18=   10-Jul-1986 UB.COM
20=   05-Aug-1986 BELL-ATL.COM
20=   05-Aug-1986 GE.COM
20=   05-Aug-1986 GREBYN.COM
20=   05-Aug-1986 ISC.COM
20=   05-Aug-1986 NSC.COM
20=   05-Aug-1986 STARGATE.COM
26.   02-Sep-1986 BOEING.COM
27.   18-Sep-1986 ITCORP.COM
28.   29-Sep-1986 SIEMENS.COM
29.   18-Oct-1986 PYRAMID.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 ALPHACDC.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 BDM.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 FLUKE.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 INMET.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 KESMAI.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 MENTOR.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 NEC.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 RAY.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 ROSEMOUNT.COM
30=   27-Oct-1986 VORTEX.COM
40=   05-Nov-1986 ALCOA.COM
40=   05-Nov-1986 GTE.COM
42=   17-Nov-1986 ADOBE.COM
42=   17-Nov-1986 AMD.COM
42=   17-Nov-1986 DAS.COM
42=   17-Nov-1986 DATA-IO.COM
42=   17-Nov-1986 OCTOPUS.COM
42=   17-Nov-1986 PORTAL.COM
42=   17-Nov-1986 TELTONE.COM
42=   11-Dec-1986 3COM.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 AMDAHL.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 CCUR.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 CI.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 CONVERGENT.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 DG.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 PEREGRINE.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 QUAD.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 SQ.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 TANDY.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 TTI.COM
50=   11-Dec-1986 UNISYS.COM
61=   19-Jan-1987 CGI.COM
61=   19-Jan-1987 CTS.COM
61=   19-Jan-1987 SPDCC.COM
64.   19-Feb-1987 APPLE.COM
65=   04-Mar-1987 NMA.COM
65=   04-Mar-1987 PRIME.COM
67.   04-Apr-1987 PHILIPS.COM
68=   23-Apr-1987 DATACUBE.COM
68=   23-Apr-1987 KAI.COM
68=   23-Apr-1987 TIC.COM
68=   23-Apr-1987 VINE.COM
72.   30-Apr-1987 NCR.COM
73=   14-May-1987 CISCO.COM
73=   14-May-1987 RDL.COM
75.   20-May-1987 SLB.COM
76=   27-May-1987 PARCPLACE.COM
76=   27-May-1987 UTC.COM
78.   26-Jun-1987 IDE.COM
79.   09-Jul-1987 TRW.COM
80.   13-Jul-1987 UNIPRESS.COM
81=   27-Jul-1987 DUPONT.COM
81=   27-Jul-1987 LOCKHEED.COM
83.   28-Jul-1987 ROSETTA.COM
84.   18-Aug-1987 TOAD.COM
85.   31-Aug-1987 QUICK.COM
86=   03-Sep-1987 ALLIED.COM
86=   03-Sep-1987 DSC.COM
86=   03-Sep-1987 SCO.COM
89=   22-Sep-1987 GENE.COM
89=   22-Sep-1987 KCCS.COM
89=   22-Sep-1987 SPECTRA.COM
89=   22-Sep-1987 WLK.COM
93.   30-Sep-1987 MENTAT.COM
94.   14-Oct-1987 WYSE.COM
95.   02-Nov-1987 CFG.COM
96.   09-Nov-1987 MARBLE.COM
97=   16-Nov-1987 CAYMAN.COM
97=   16-Nov-1987 ENTITY.COM
99.   24-Nov-1987 KSR.COM
100.   30-Nov-1987 NYNEXST.COM

I generally try to keep my domains registered at GoDaddy and often struggle to find current renewal coupon codes.  They always seem to be expired when I need them.

Today I noticed that DNXpert was able to find some valid GoDaddy coupons:

Dot Com Renewal: oyh3

Dot Net Renewal: gdbb776

And some others he found:

cjcbentld for $7.64 .org
cjcbentld for $12.74 .mobi
cjcbentld for $6.99 biz
cjcbentld for $6.79 .us
cjcbentld for $7.81 .net
cjcbentld for $8.49 .name
gdp0119d for $6.20 .net
cjcbentld for $12.74 .mobi
gdp0131pl for 1.99 .info

Here are a few others that I know of:

BLAUGH - 10% off
BTPS7 - 20% any order of $50 or more
BTPS4 - 10% off anything
CHILL1 - 10% off
CHILL2 - $5 off a $30 purchase
CHILL3 - $7.15 per .com registration
HASH1 - 10% off
HASH2 - $5 off a $30 purchase
HASH3 - $7.15 per .com registration
OYH1 - 10% off
OYH2 - $5 off a $30 purchase

Now I just need some discount codes for domains purchased off TDNam.  Anyone know of any?

In order to be a successful domainer, it seems that you truly need to have to devote some time to backordering domain names.  This is a great way to find some diamonds in the rough and truly make some money, or get some quality domains to hang on to for awhile now.

Today while I was browsing through a few back order lists I began to wonder out loud about backordering domains.   Where do you do most of your back orders?  I regularly find domain names that I would love to own, but some I wouldn’t pay the minimum $60.00+ on, and the others get bid up really high.

For many part-time domainers it can be tough to spend that kind of money regularly on domain names, which creates a significant advantage for full-time domainers with deep pockets to snatch up any domains that might have a long term value.

Where do you have the most success back ordering domains?

After skipping a week due to T.R.A.F.F.I.C, but it looks like DNJournal has finally updated their domain sales page with the latest sales figures.

Only one domain that broke the 100k mark, which was Unet.com.   A couple others went much higher than I would have expected, but I consider that to be a good thing, because it means our industry is healthy and demand is higher than supply.   Those domainers with the one word generics are doing quite well.

Any names that surprised you?

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